C20XE Race engine, no more?

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C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 020 Brad » 08 Dec 2010, 12:37

I had a bit of a sad moment last night. I was watching the Macau World Touring Car Races, which is the last race for the season. It was fantastic, with the carnage ofcourse, but also the very close racing.

Now as some of you know, the Chevrolet Cruze WTCC car actually uses the Opel derived C20XE. That's right, the same engine first used in touring car racing in the 80's is still used at top level motorsport today. In fact, Chevrolet won both the drivers and the manufacturers titles in 2010, while using this engine! Now this isn't quite the same beasty we saw developed up to Super Touring level during the 90's, in fact it is far from it. Wet sump, single throttle body, well down on power from that of the Vauxhall and Opel Vectras, which were rumoured to make in excess of 320bhp at the time, the current engine makes around 280bhp - still, pretty reasonable for an NA 2 litre and more than enough to fend off the competitors.

Which brings me on to my next point, the sadness I spoke about earlier. 2010 is the last year that the WTCC will run the factory teams under the "S2000" regulations. Next year the WTCC is following suit with the BTCC, along with WRC and going to a set of regulations that mean they will be running 1600cc turbocharged petrol engines. Now I'm not all pesimistic on this, these small engines will be making around 300bhp and 70% more torque than the current NA engines! That is a formula for good racing in anyones books and should put them all on equal pegging. What I am sad about, is that I won't get to hear the sound of a C20XE screaming at 8000rpm and competing at the top level of touring car racing in the world!

The C20XE, along with the Cruze, Lacetti and any other vehicles that it is fitted to can continue in the championship for the following year, but only run as customers cars under the regulations and will be phased out completely over the next few years, in favour of the 1600cc turbo engines and cars. So, this marks the end of an era so to speak and a sad one in my eyes at least.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 021 Chad » 08 Dec 2010, 13:16

It is indeed the end of an era :(

When I get home I'm going to put on my C20XE T shirt and OPEL racing cap and have a quiet beer with my motor in the shed. The bragging rights still stand though, competitive at a world beating level from 1988 to 2010, 20XE RIP. :cry:
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 033 Ken » 08 Dec 2010, 15:58

Well there is a good point to that..... there might be some cheap factory built race cars around in the next few years lol.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 049 Jennifer » 10 Dec 2010, 08:25

Grief! Didn't even know they were still using them to compete with?? That was sweet to find out! Thanks. Why don't they just turbo the C20XE's??? That will be much stronger than any 1600 turbo... LOL... Oh well, spose like everything else, it's time is up? Sad for racing but good if you can find any of the motors around soon to purchase!! Wicked... ;)
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 127 Gordo » 25 Jan 2011, 02:27

Seems it's got one more year of life, as there's the option to continue for the transition year and the "Chev" team intend using it - they reckon it was still the most powerful engine in 2010.
Jennifer, apparently it doesn't lend itself to direct injection and also has some issues with forced induction, compared to some other options they have.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 049 Jennifer » 26 Jan 2011, 14:16

Gordo> as far as I know it lends itself to forced induction very well if done right, but that costs money, and plenty of it too! Which is probably why they are going for an existing turbo setup.. It could also be that they cannot go over a certain power limit compared to the competition? I know of some converted C20XE's making +- 400kw... that is some serious power for that size motor.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 021 Chad » 26 Jan 2011, 15:32

I think the issue with forced induction on the C20XE for further use in touring car racing is the forced induction displacement limit rather than it's 'ability' as a turbo charged motor.
Arent forced induction peterol motors limited to 1600cc for the WTCC and BTCC? This rules out the C20XE completely.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 116 Steve B » 26 Jan 2011, 15:45

and the block in my 06 Astra sri t is a C20XE based unit

sorry i have just checked and its an x20xev block my bad :oops:
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 020 Brad » 26 Jan 2011, 16:20

As far as I'm aware Steve, the X20XEV block and the C20XE block are very similar in design, to the point where heads are interchangable, so you are right (in my Chevette I'm running an X20XEV head on an earlier C20NE block, so its all happy families where Opel Family 2 engines are concerned).

As far as Touring Car Regulations Chad is on the money, they need to be 1600cc so they will be using the current generation of Opel engines for this purpose, Family 1 is it? They are great engines, still cast iron block so very strong and smooth and make decent power. I supposed they come direct injected also, so it all makes perfect sense.

Strange that Chevrolet are sticking with the C20XE this season. They were very strong motors last year both in reliability and power, however this year the power of the 1600cc turbo engines will not only be on par with the 2 litre NA motors, the torque will be considerably more with some suggesting up to 100Nm more will be available and no doubt at a much more accesable rev range.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 049 Jennifer » 26 Jan 2011, 19:52

Thanks for clearing that up Chad! ;) I guessed it might have something to do with power/engine size... pity!
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 127 Gordo » 26 Jan 2011, 21:18

Pick up a copy of the latest "Racecar Engineering" - December 2010.
It has a long feature on the new BTCC and the Chev' race car and it's use of the XE in a sidebar - it seems the main reason for continuing with it this year is they have the option, it's a known quantity and it cuts down on development costs and time.
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Re: C20XE Race engine, no more?

Postby 021 Chad » 27 Jan 2011, 08:25

116 Steve B wrote:and the block in my 06 Astra sri t is a C20XE based unit

sorry i have just checked and its an x20xev block my bad :oops:


Nah you're right Steve. My C20XE has an X20XEV block too! :shock:
The later C20's used a strengthened block which was later used on the X20XEV, mine even has an X20XEV style timing belt setup.
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