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The dead Opel thread

Postby 026 Nik » 13 Oct 2010, 09:35

For those NZ members post up camjam.co.nz links and or pics of dead Opels that are relevant to the forum:

Dads old NZ new Omega GSI 3000: http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=ns9668
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 020 Brad » 13 Oct 2010, 10:45

Hahaha, Opel 651, how can they possibly be that retarded?! I still have a conspiracy theory that for some reason they were intentionally mucking up the models because most Opels of the era are wrong, to the point where it seems even the biggest idiots in the world couldn't consistantly get something that wrong, surely.
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 026 Nik » 13 Oct 2010, 11:03

The Astra GSI 16V is another: http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=SU1619
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 168 Derek S » 14 Oct 2010, 17:47

I would not have been happy buying a NZ new GSI and having it registered as a 651, but here is another similar case.

My NZ new silver Manta was registered new as a Opel MANIA, yeah you read right M A N I A

if I was the first owner I would have gone crazy with the dealer for allowing that to happen on a brand new car, but it obviously did happen.

All the out of date rego window stickers that were in the car all read Opel MANIA.

So anyone doing a search on cars registered new in NZ would need to be carfull as I guess a search on Manta would exclude my one, being a Mania

How dumb is that.
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 127 Gordo » 15 Oct 2010, 02:45

I'd be pissed - but strangely appropriate for some members...
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 001 Neville » 15 Oct 2010, 09:26

127 Gordo wrote:I'd be pissed - but strangely appropriate for some members...


:lol: :lol: As you say, quite appropriate, but would need the regn plate to match as well! :wink:
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 001 Neville » 15 Oct 2010, 09:34

020 Brad wrote:Hahaha, Opel 651, how can they possibly be that retarded?! I still have a conspiracy theory that for some reason they were intentionally mucking up the models because most Opels of the era are wrong, to the point where it seems even the biggest idiots in the world couldn't consistantly get something that wrong, surely.



I don't think it is restricted to Opels, as I search on many different makes and find things like quirky mileage spikes which are evidently just a misread, such as a car mileage jumped from 67,581 to 675,810 next WOF then back to 67, xxx for the following one. If people would just use their brains, would help. Put rubbish into computers, you get rubbish out! Just that it shows up as an alert on CarJam as an inconsistent odometer...... :x :roll:
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 028 Sean » 27 Oct 2010, 00:55

Car Jam wrote:Chassis: WO5000019H1152583


Hmmm, Looking at the details of that 1988 Astro Silver Omega 3000....surely the chassis number is written down incorrectly and the year of manufacture too?? :? :? :?

All the Opel Omega 3000's I've ever seen have WOL19H1000000 chassis numbers and not the "WO5" as written in that document above. You see....

WOL000019H1000000

The first part is easy because the "WOL" part of the chassis number are the 3 letters that are allocated specifically to all Vauxhall/Opel cars that are built in Europe. Its whats known as a vehicles World Manufacturer Identifier. To give you another example of this - Lotus assembled Lotus Carlton/Lotus Omega's have "SCC" and genuine Irmscher GmbH built Irmscher Senator's/C40/C40E's have "WJR" codes so Bitter GmbH built vehicles have "WBJ" letters as their World Manufacturer Identifier at the start of their chassis codes.

WOL000019H1152583

This "000019" number is the GM code for the vehicles body type, which in this case means its a late 1980's and early 1990's Mk3 Carlton/Omega A four door saloon car.

WOL000019H1152583

The next letter in the chassis sequence denotes the vehicles year of manufacture. All of our Carlton related date codes started on the 1st of October 1986 and this letter would then change after 30th September 1987 and repeat this pattern year after year. With Nik's Omega 3000 having a letter "H" in this part of the code....It means that his Dad's old car was manufactured by Opel sometime after October 1986 but before 30th September 1987 when the code changed to a letter "J" denouncing the official start of the 1988 build year.

WOL000019H11152583

This next number or letter corresponds to the actual GM factory that the vehicle in question was manufactured. In our case, all Omega A's and Senator B's were made in Rüsselheim - Germany and the "1" was the number given to this specific GM site.

WOL000019H11152583

Finally with "152583" we have come to the actual build number of the silver Opel Omega 3000. Unfortunately, This is not that easy to 100% date accurately because I have so far not been able to get anyone from Opel to share this factory specific vehicle information with me.

I'm very sorry for the long winded and complicated reply here but as far as I understand it, this Omega 3000 should have a WOL000019H1152583 chassis number and the letter "H" in this code means its a 1987 and not a 1988 example too! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 028 Sean » 27 Oct 2010, 01:05

I suppose I'll let them off where the misguided "3000" cylinder capacity is also concerned as most people struggle to understand that these vehicles 3.0L CIH & 3.0L DOHC engines are actually 2968.5cc's thanks to each indivdual cylinders 494.75cc measurement.

So, 494.75 x 6 = a 2968.5 cylinder capacity for Opel's old straight six engine!

HTH! :P
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Re: The dead Opel thread

Postby 026 Nik » 29 Sep 2013, 10:07

My Aunt found me a pic of her old Manta yesterday. She must have sold it around 1990/91

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Looks like it died in 1995 :(

http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=na1274
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Re: The dead Opel thread

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